RE: KOZ | from meMar 22 2005 - 19:02
dude, all I can say is: SAXOPHONIC !!
the rest of you can go masturb
dude, all I can say is: SAXOPHONIC !!
the rest of you can go masturb
My favotire Koz cd has to be "The Profound Influence I Have Had - or Should Have Had - on Most of You." It's a double cd compilation with some previously unreleased tracks, including his creamy live cover of "God Save the Queen."
My favorite Koz cds are Back to Buckhead and My Sweet Horn. They inspired me to give up my townhouse and realize my true potential by accepting a fulfilling middle management position which allows me to indulge my gambling habit. Thank you, Koz!
Mat, "me" is obviously being sarcastic. Surely you realize that. C'mon.
On a more sad note, Blame It On Rio will not be opening for Dave Koz in Idaho after all. Apparently B.I.O.R's "screamo" approach is too light and fluffy for the Koz-heads, and Mr. Koz punched all the members of B.I.O.R. in the balls with his sax. When asked for comment, B.I.O.R's drummer said, "aw man, now my balls REALLY hurt. Dave Koz is a poopy-head."
Dave Koz is playing in Idaho! And Blame It On Rio are opening for him! It's a dream come true.
You're on the Idaho website and you don't know who Mark Kozelek is!!??!! Not to be patronising... but you really should. Sorry if anybody thinks differently.
Who the hell is mark kozelek?
Can't we please talk about Dave KoZ ?
Somebody here must appreciate his genious??
C'mon - what's your favorite record of his?
Mark Kozelek is playing in London on June 2nd and 6th! Hooray!
definately the wrong Koz... but then i saw mention of how soft and creamy you said it was... reminded me of a butter spread.... MMmmmm . Garlicky.
Uhhh, wrong Koz buddy..
Thank god someone brought this man's music up here on this old board. The influence he has had - or should have had on most of you is profound. The mixing of jazz and pop on his sweet horn just give me the chills. Dave Koz is so much more then just a sax player, this man really feels his language (not to mention that circular breathing!)
I'm very surprised his name hasn't come up sooner. One time I was having a bad weekend. I had been up all night drinking beer and doing some lines with my friends and we started playing some internet poker. Next thing I know I've lost $17oo dollars. Anyway, long story short, I was sitting in the terminal of the Dallas-Ft Worth Airport when I hear the most beautiful music in the world.
It was the soft and creamy yet funky jazz of dave KOZ. My life has never been the same.
I quit my middle mangement job and moved back to Buckhead where I purchased a lovely townhouse.
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If theres any hardcore RHP fans out there YOU MUST check out the early demos. I never knew the songs 21, Headsore, Heart Attack and the Bridge existed 'til a couple of weeks ago. Amazing stuff!
Down Colorful Hill and the untitled albums are the best. Then Ocean Beach. The other ones are not as good. I like Sun Kil Moon though.
Start with Rollercoaster or DCH.
this is the order: start with Songs For A Blue Guitar and go in reverse. when you get the begining/end, go to Old Ramon and SKM.
rollercoaster record is my favourite.
rhp sucks, guys. yawnsville.
I first became familiar with RHP around a year ago-I'm 21. I had always heard their name before in references and such, but ventured off to finally buy an album a year ago. My introduction to them was Ocean Beach-great place to start. I then bought the Rollercoaster album, and while it has its good moments, I'm glad I didn't start there. In continuing order of purchase, I then bought Down Colorful Hill, Songs for a Blue Guitar, and Old Ramon.
I have to say I'm not impressed with Songs for a Blue Guitar.
Sun Kil Moon is probably my favorite of all Mark Kozelek's work. It's such a sweeping and endearing album.
My 2 favorite RHP albums are Old Ramon and Ocean Beach.
^I like that assessment. Agreed.
NO NO NO-
These poor misguided fans...You must start with Down Colorful Hill as an album...how many artists can claim that Ivo Watts Russel liked their demo so much that he released it as an album? Medicine Bottle is the essential track here, followed by Michael, 24 and the title cut. Then go to RHP (rollercoaster)Katy Song, Strawberry Hill, Mother,Grace Cathedral Park. ("...and in the mean time please, think of the good things we've done for you..")-
Then check out RHP (bridge), then, and only then, Ocean Beach. Ocean Beach is a clear musical progression from the earlier stuff, and is exquisite, but I think you'd appreciate it more if you knew how the story began (I can't deny that i drift sometimes...")Intersting fact (maybe)- I discovered Idaho from RHP-a eview compared them so I bought Year after Year and....I love that we all love the same music, by the way...Anyway, enjoy the RHP experience; Mark is great live (musically) but a total jerk- unlike the boys from ID.
Ocean Beach also has "Over My Head", which is one of my favorites. For a first album to get, I'd still go with the "rollercoaster" self-titled though. My personal favorite album is "Songs For A Blue Guitar" though.
I have to disagree about Ocean Beach. While I think "Drop" is the gem on that disc, I love "Summer Dress" and "San Geronimo." In fact, in my opinion, it may be RHP's most consistently listenable disc. I tend to skip from track to track with the others with the exception of Down Colorful Hill, which I can listen to in its entirety. I also like the AC/DC covers. Kozelek's an alchemist with those songs.
I'll elaborate a bit on why I chose "Rollercoaster" and "Down Colorful Hill" first. Both of these albums start off with a few songs that illustrate what RHP does best, in my opinion. I heard "Down Colorful Hill" first. I was pretty sucked in by "24", but then when "Medicine Bottle" came on, I was totally in love with it. Then you've got "Down Colorful Hill" and "Japanese To English", both gorgeous songs that are really the RHP sound, to me. I heard "Rollercoaster" next. There you start off with "Grace Cathedral Park", which I think is a great introductory song. The beautiful, yearning RHP sound with some of his best lyrics. That followed by "Down Through" and "Katy Song" (especially) should make anyone fall in love with this music. I listened to "Medicine Bottle" and "Katy Song" over and over before I even finished listening to the entire "Rollercoaster" album. The problem I have with "Ocean Beach" is the first half of the album. Personally, I wouldn't be very excited about the band if those were the first songs I heard, unless I loved fuzz guitars and stuff. Starting in the middle would be good, though.
Pretty well said by all. My first experience with RHP was "Ocean Beach" and I think that's a good place to start, although my favorite is the 2nd self-titled one (with the bridge cover). I've never liked "blue guitar". "old ramon" is pretty good though, and honestly I love the Sun Kil Moon record.
It's interesting how widely opinions differ when it comes to Kozelek.
Dan is off base when he suggests you avoid any RHP after '96. Old Ramon has some of Kozelek's best material, especially the first three songs. Blue Guitar and both the solo records also have their moments of sublimity.
Kozelek is not an album artist, though -- despite the fact that some of his most successful material is not an easy listen and might be mislabled "deep cuts." He takes patience, close attention, and a willingness to appreciate the sonics and the spaces as being on an equal footing with the vocals and songwriting.
I agree with mplaster that Sun Kil Moon is not the best place to start. That record is a good addition to the catalog, but I think you have to understand Kozelek's persona to appreciate that record. By no means is it a "terrible," though. That's just not a fair assessment.
Above all, Kozelek is a craftsman. He cares about the sound of a finger on a string. He'll go to elaborate lengths, even in a shitty club, to make sure it sounds right. With idiot bands like Sum 41 and the Killers dominating the scene, a little craft is much appreciated.
here's what i say.
first should definitely be
Get the self-titled CD with a rollercoaster on the front. And get "Down Colorful Hill" and "Ocean Beach". If you like this stuff, get the untitled CD with a bridge on the cover and "Songs for a Blue Guitar". I pretty much never listen to "Old Ramon" or the Sun Kil Moon CD.
... guilty. Avoid anything after '96 to start with, the possible exception being the very decent Sun Kil Moon CD.
I'd go for anything during the 4AD years, especially Down Colorful Hill or 'Rollercoaster'. Fantastic stuff - enjoy!
Any Kozelek fans out there?
Just heard a few bits and bobs and wondering if anyone has any suggestions as to where one might start one's RHP journey of discovery. Thanks...
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