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RE: idaho's ac15 | from John DoeSep 28 2003 - 03:43

RE: idaho's ac15 | from David T.Sep 05 2003 - 12:43

No need to be a smart-ass. If you know all of this, why would you think Goldenseal has "no chord progressions per se"? That's incorrect, plain and simple.

RE: idaho's ac15 | from cSep 05 2003 - 12:12

Wow! Is THAT what chord progressions are?!? I really thought they were just what the acoustic guitar plays. Thanks for enlightening me!!!

RE: idaho's ac15 | from David T.Sep 05 2003 - 10:29

C, chord progressions don't necessarily mean "what chords an acoustic guitar is playing". They're the whole of what a band or group is playing. Just because members of an orchestra generally play one note at a time, that doesn't mean that there aren't chord progressions in orchestral music. Probably 99.9%, possibly 100%, of it has them.

RE: idaho's ac15 | from JR OlssonSep 04 2003 - 15:15

du kan dra.

RE: idaho's ac15 | from idawhoreSep 04 2003 - 06:10

yes, good luck and godspeed to you!! you will be in my thoughts and prayers 24-7!!!

RE: idaho's ac15 | from AndrewSep 03 2003 - 15:29

Good luck JR!

RE: idaho's ac15 | from JR OlssonSep 03 2003 - 14:35

ok, the search is on.

RE: idaho's ac15 | from AlexSep 03 2003 - 13:16

I agree with Seth.

RE: idaho's ac15 | from Seth HowardSep 03 2003 - 12:47

Roger - I think the clean sound would be pretty good for what you do. I don't think the distortion channel sounds that good, but that's what pedals are for.

RE: idaho's ac15 | from BmanSep 03 2003 - 10:27

In my opinion you cannot get a better amp for the price. Go for it.

RE: idaho's ac15 | from JR OlssonSep 03 2003 - 00:23

ok, speakning of amps. i am planning on buying a fender hot rod deluxe. does anyone know anything about it? is it good stuff?

RE: idaho's ac15 | from Andrew KellierSep 02 2003 - 13:42

That would be both hilarious and sad.

RE: idaho's ac15 | from cSep 02 2003 - 12:53

yup. and i bet right now, somewhere out there someone who read that post is telling all his/her friends "hey check it this Idaho song I learned": D-A-Bm-D-A-Bm-D-A-Bm-D-A-Bm..............

RE: idaho's ac15 | from AlexSep 02 2003 - 12:20

Yes, that's all I was trying to say. That is the BASIC chord progression obviously. If some retarded jackass was trying to play along w/ the song, that's what he or she would play.

RE: idaho's ac15 | from cSep 02 2003 - 06:03

yeah alex, in very basic terms. i just hpe no one attempts a cover of it by playing those 3 chords over and over... that would be retarded and totally missing the point.

RE: idaho's ac15 | from brianAug 31 2003 - 21:16

goldenseal is on the Forbidden ep

RE: idaho's ac15 | from ronAug 31 2003 - 20:25

Goldenseal? must be on the CD that hasn't arrived yet! :)

RE: idaho's ac15 | from AlexAug 31 2003 - 18:16

I do see what you're saying, though.

RE: idaho's ac15 | from AlexAug 31 2003 - 18:15

Goldenseal's chord progression is D A Bm.

RE: idaho's ac15 | from c againAug 31 2003 - 14:18

early throbbing gristle/swans/controlled bleeding, some of glenn branca's stuff, some of Wire's more out-there material, not to mention my favorite recording of all time, the beatles "revolution 9"... it's true that 99.9% of music does have some type of melody, but these are a few exceptions. oh and the Idaho song I was referring to is "goldenseal" - yes of course there is a melody, but it's carried by the bass - no chord progressions per se. i think it's one of Idaho's best ever songs - it doesn't sound to me like anything else in their catalog.

RE: idaho's ac15 | from ronAug 31 2003 - 09:31

is there such a thing as melody-less music? i mean, was i just sort of using circular reasoning? what's an example of music w/o melody? the nature of notes and chords sort of assumes melody, right? even if it's just a kind of drum circle getting after it... there's still melody. even The Mars Volta has melody. on tone, i think the ability to know and actualize good tone is part of being talented.

RE: idaho's ac15 | from JeanAug 29 2003 - 18:58

Purely rhythmic music has no melody but it's still music. Tons of songs are melodyless, not that I'm saying that's necessarily a good thing.

RE: idaho's ac15 | from Andrew KellierAug 29 2003 - 18:52

Who are you talking to Ron?

RE: idaho's ac15 | from ronAug 29 2003 - 16:10

hmmm. i had a hard time believing that K-Bang was serious. but i guess that's neither here nor there. i'll tell ya what: you plug into your crate amp that costs about 150 quid, i'll plug into my Matchless cheiftain and we'll compare tone. we can even use the same guitar and play the same "chord progression." hell, we'll even have the same player play both rigs.
i see what you're saying... and it's somewhat true. but you've overstated the case.
charisma? style? sounds like you're trying to piece together the next NSYC or something.
the bottom line is this: there's gotta be melody. it can come from either a guitar or a piano or a bass or whatever. and even the most obscure song or artist you can cite will have melody. without it, there's no music.

RE: idaho's ac15 | from AlexAug 29 2003 - 14:31

I meant in general. If it's a noise piece, then there probably won't be one. But for the most part, even if you don't hear chords, there's still an underlying progression. Which Idaho song are you referring to?

RE: idaho's ac15 | from cAug 29 2003 - 12:49

i agree with most of what you said, alex - except for the "chord progression" part. a piece of music doesn't necessarily need a chord progression to be considered a song. think of stuff like aphex twin, early Swans, Can, some of radiohead's more recent stuff, etc. there's even an Idaho song I can think of that has no discernable chord progressions whatsoever. can ya guess which one it is?

RE: idaho's ac15 | from AlexAug 29 2003 - 10:41

I'll just rephrase his statement into how I feel. There are too many talentless people who obsess over what gear they have. They spend more time messing with amp tubes, guitar pickups, effects, etc. than they do practicing and progressing musically. Kbang, chord progressions are very important and all people care about them, whether they realize it or not. Without a chord progression, you don't have a song.

RE: idaho's ac15 | from m2Aug 29 2003 - 00:41


RE: idaho's ac15 | from Seth HowardAug 28 2003 - 16:58

Maybe we should all just sit in the dark and yell and beat our chests.

RE: idaho's ac15 | from Andrew kellierAug 27 2003 - 20:09

Kbang: Are you saying that no-one else on this board has talent? If you are, you're very misinformed.

RE: idaho's ac15 | from AlexAug 27 2003 - 20:07

Strange wording, but I totally agree with you.

RE: idaho's ac15 | from k,bangAug 27 2003 - 19:20

Oh christ, can't you guys give the sonic knob machine bullshit a rest. You all wanna get that perfect sound, that parteecular tone that just gives you a hard on for the techy muso monkey timbre you thought you felt when she last blew you, or when you had that great drive across the desert. You can fuck about with all the equpment you can dream of, but if you ain't got the talent, or the charisma, or the style, then give it up. Spare us. Spare us your bedtime salivating over the "right" gear. Go find a use for your own flesh with someone who cares, instead of pretending that fiddling with a bit of black plastic will save your soul. Cause it won't. All you'll be left with is an attic brim full of crap that means nothing to anyone and a brain that's either been incinerated at the crematorium or is full of crudity, frustration, stupidity, bitterness and chord progressions and technical specifications that nobody gives a fuck about. Go fuckin live a little. Don't be afraid.

RE: idaho's ac15 | from Seth HowardAug 27 2003 - 16:19

$1800. Too rich for my blood.

RE: idaho's ac15 | from jeffAug 21 2003 - 14:07

im using my little ac10 and a silver faced fender deluxe reverb that has a re issue alnico bulldog speaker. the ac15 is superb but i get basically the same sound out of the ac10 at a lower volume.

RE: idaho's ac15 | from AlexAug 21 2003 - 12:32

Hey Jeff. What amps are you currently using?

RE: idaho's ac15 | from Seth HowardAug 21 2003 - 10:40

Damn. Why couldn't you have listed that when I was broke as hell and would not even be able to consider it?

RE: idaho's ac15 | from Andie Aug 21 2003 - 09:36

very interested, how much and why are you selling? New releases are wonderful by the way.

vox | from jeffAug 21 2003 - 08:10

im selling my trusty old ac15. its on ebay at http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2552785843&ssPageName=ADME:B:LC:US:1 this amp has shown up on most of the idaho CDs since this way out.

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