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RE: Goddam you John Berry and your JCM 800 | from artieMay 25 2002 - 19:35

my money will forever be on the ampeg v4.

RE: Goddam you John Berry and your JCM 800 | from r.mathew fieldsMay 25 2002 - 12:50

traynor is a canadian made amp... not in production any more but you can find them really easily.. we just got one to replace a marshall that blow up on us and it blows the marshall away none of that high frequency that seems to drive your ears nuts... if you are interested more about them i can find some stores that have them used and they are cheap... about $300 can. dollars... i saw three or four of them last week at different stores in toronto... e-mail me and i can help you out.... that's if you are interested...

r.mathew fields

RE: Goddam you John Berry and your JCM 800 | from michelMay 23 2002 - 17:10

vox

RE: Goddam you John Berry and your JCM 800 | from ericarnoldMay 23 2002 - 15:42

You know what I never looked on the combo side of the Orange Amp website...

You see, I have 2 Orange 2x12's (one with Greenbacks and the other w/ Modern leads) so i would only look at the heads.

I was debating on which of the two cabinents i was going to sell, but i think i might sell 'em both and get the combo.

Thanks Ashley!

I still think it's funny that this thread still says "Goddam you John Berry..."

RE: Goddam you John Berry and your JCM 800 | from ashleybergMay 23 2002 - 09:56

eric, try the Orange AD30R. i think it would be right up your alley... it sounds like you tried out the 'reverb-less' model. i played it's little brother the AD15/10 the other day and was blown away ... made me want to throw away every effect in my arsenal (except maybe my '81 big muff pi).


just plug in and crank up.

RE: Goddam you John Berry and your JCM 800 | from ericalanarnoldMay 22 2002 - 06:39


OK then, how about *ME* doing your gear thinking for you? (laughs)

How about for live shows you get set up with a Marshall JCM 2000 (they are pretty decent amps out of the box and you don't have to scour the used shops for quality) 50 watt DSL with new JJ E34L tubes (they give you more headroom and sweeten the clean sound from eurotubes.com)
to augment what Jeff has going on with the Fender Deluxe sound? And get a smaller 2x12 cabinet so you don't dominate on the speaker spread side of things.

Fender/Marshall amp combinations really work well in the live arena in my opinion.

Didn't you stick a Marshall Guv'nor on your board to try to push that Fender into Marshall territory/ It works a bit, but is no substitute.

Take this all with a grain of salt but this could be a nice easy and manageable set-up...

Keep plugging on that Starry record, there are people that would like to hear it!

RE: Goddam you John Berry and your JCM 800 | from christianMay 22 2002 - 04:41

and dan seta. don't forget dan. especially that gorgeous feedback line that runs through the beginning of "jump up". without a doubt one of my favorite idaho moments.

RE: Goddam you John Berry and your JCM 800 | from BeanMay 22 2002 - 01:38

You're kidding John?? the way You used feedback on YAY?? Only You and thin white rope ever made it sound that emotional.

RE: Goddam you John Berry and your JCM 800 | from J BerryMay 22 2002 - 01:14

Eric, Sorry to disapoint, but I probably spend about an hour a year thinking about amps and gear.
We are talking about switching back to Marshall's but I doubt it will happen. Really it depends on if we bring OUR amps to Europe or not. If we don't, there is a higher probability of using Marshalls.

There are a couple of heavy things on the STARRY, but who knows if it will ever get out...

RE: Goddam you John Berry and your JCM 800 | from ericalanarnoldMay 21 2002 - 19:18

Never heard of the Traynor thing sounds kinda interesting...

I have played 2 used Egnator TOL 100's and they just weren't inspiring-but they were used and you never know how they were treated.

I own a Rivera Fandango and this is a very cool amp-the closest i have been to the dream...

three channels of
Fender clean
great mid-break-up and
Marshall crunch (with boost or overdrive pedal)

Rivera's are the most tweakiest amps i have ever played.


although dirt box distortion is a completely viable sound i am never personally satisfied until i have a good gain stage of the amp doing the work.

the Budda SD-30 is a very cool 2 channel amp-Vox-ish clean and a very good gain channel.

the Orange AD-30 struck me as a real toneful amp but neither it nor the Budda have reverb which i like to have in all my amps.

would love to play some of the more boutiquey type amps like Tophat, Dr. Z, Matchless and Bogner but there are none in the area...

i could talk about this stuff all day!

RE: Goddam you John Berry and your JCM 800 | from dcsMay 21 2002 - 18:53

Have you tried the Egnater MICA TOL 100? It's the only amp I've heard that cops the Marshall grit as well as the Twin clean sound.
The Rivera Jake/Rake comes in second. The Egnater TOL 50 is cool too but not as gainy as the TOL 100. More like a Voxish clean sound + a JCM 800.

RE: Goddam you John Berry and your JCM 800 | from adamMay 21 2002 - 13:16

I heard that the old 70's traynor bass heads are the exact same circuit as a tweed fender, but using EL 34's they sound exactly like a plexi when pushed. Might be right up your alley.

..everytime i think that i weened myself off those fucking Marshalls... | from ericalanarnoldMay 21 2002 - 12:47

I am not above saying that the guitar sounds on Y.A.Y. were a big influence on me and although i play clean guitar 90% of the time-when i want distortion it's gotta be a Marshall.

This screws me as the Marshall clean is just passable, but no other amp that I have found with a better clean will do this.

I have yet to try Bogner but at that price tag-fuck it.

The closest good clean to Marshall crunch I have found is Rivera-but it's not the same feeling. it does a nice plexi-ish break-up but nothing suitable in the JCM 800/2000 range.

Just doing some amp shopping and i don't think the amp i want exists...

Would like one amp to take the place of my pile o'Fender/Marshall/Rivera/Vox...oh well.

John-can we expect some heavier bits on your new project?

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