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RE: mr. jeff martin | from RossMar 22 2002 - 06:00

Testify.

RE: mr. jeff martin | from ryan Mar 21 2002 - 00:26

i knew about idaho from friends a few years before i actually was able to see them.i saw idaho for the first time in san francisco a few months before "alas" was released. it blew me away, moved to tears.
i felt compelled to write to jeff and say thank you for the way the music had made me feel. i also sent him a cd with a couple songs with my friends and i playing. a few weeks later i received a post card from jeff saying that the cd was "cool, really original". i didn't ask him to send an opinion of the music, i only wanted to know if and when they would return. that gesture proved just how down to earth and sincere jeff is. i have seen idaho everytime they have come to my area since. i always notice how polite and friendly jeff is with the people who come to see idaho. i really don't think he would be that way or give compliments unless he really wanted to. idaho is the greatest band in the world.

RE: mr. jeff martin | from ryan Mar 21 2002 - 00:26

i knew about idaho from friends a few years before i actually was able to see them.i saw idaho for the first time in san francisco a few months before "alas" was released. it blew me away, moved to tears.
i felt compelled to write to jeff and say thank you for the way the music had made me feel. i also sent him a cd with a couple songs with my friends and i playing. a few weeks later i received a post card from jeff saying that the cd was "cool, really original". i didn't ask him to send an opinion of the music, i only wanted to know if and when they would return. that gesture proved just how down to earth and sincere jeff is. i have seen idaho everytime they have come to my area since. i always notice how polite and friendly jeff is with the people who come to see idaho. i really don't think he would be that way or give compliments unless he really wanted to. idaho is the greatest band in the world.

RE: mr. jeff martin | from deanFeb 17 2002 - 16:24

yeah michel i think we're on the same page and I dont think you came across annoyingly, its just communicating like this leaves the reader to interpret whats been read in his own way. No big deal, its just that pesky feedback loop-"sentence first.verdict afterwards"(Lewis Carroll) Anyway, this all makes for interesting discussion, perhaps I'll write a song about it, or perhaps I'll blow my fucking brains out. ha ha ha.

RE: mr. jeff martin | from michelFeb 17 2002 - 10:10

Dean, i didn't mean to sound annoying in any way if i did i'm sorry, what i meant to say i suppose was that you're not alone in not getting a reply -as far as i can tell ofcourse, given the fact the occasional equal posts that are submitted to this board-Also maybe it's not such a big deal, I can imagine Mr Martin says to himself: I really have to thank this guy for giving me his music, and then simply forgets about it up until he runs into you one day as happened to Joe supposively. I'm sure Jeff and co are delighted and proud of what their music brings forth in people, ranging from enjoyment in listening to it to others being inspired by it in whatever art they produce: resulting in posts on a message board, a great poem, book, painting or handing over a cd. So I pretty much agree in what you're saying, it's just that your first post was maybe somewhat rhetorical and i tried to be supportive -guess that came out wrong-.
anyway I don't know much about Sinatra but I really like a phrase by Sartre: "Man is what he makes of himself".
I will listen to your music Dean, some of mine is at gardinmusic.com and be sure to check out the thread "our bands" on this board 'cause there's a lot of nice thingy's out there to listen to.
take it easy, michel

RE: mr. jeff martin | from deanFeb 16 2002 - 13:58

michel, I think everyone who's ever been to an IDAHO web site would agree that Mr. Martin is one of the greatest song writers of his generation. Maybe a head nod or some sort of acknowledgement of our existance as aspiring song writers from someone who inspires us to move beyond our basements with our music is not such a bad thing? I guess, when I gave Jeff the cd I was just trying to say, I love your music and I'm out here doing my own thing and this is what it sounds like. I think IDAHO is a greatly overlooked band and I feel a certain connection to it and I hope the albums keep coming out so I can continue connecting.
And, it means alot for people like me, Joe and you to hear things like,"really great cd" from people like Jeff Martin. Besides its like Frank Sinatra said in one of the songs he sings," If you're Mr. Mumbles well then you're a zero"
I could go on and on and get really wierd with this...Isn't it just as seemingly "lame" to give your cd to someone you dont know as it is to say talk on an internet chatroom or message board?
But, when we do,dont we grow in a way that is positive? But just because I long to hear sweet nothings from people like Jeff doesnt mean I dont long to hear sweet nothings or harsh criticism from people like you. Our site is at smallcraftadvisory.net, where is yours?

RE: mr. jeff martin | from Joe Krupinski (peel)Feb 16 2002 - 02:15

I dunno. Me and a bandmate hung out with Jeff n Co. in one of his Chicago shows, and we dropped him a CD, which is seemingly a lame thing to do. But after they toured Erupe, they came back to Chicago, and he walked up to me and said it was a "really great CD". Sure hope you werent lying, Jeff, cause it meant alot for you to say that, and even you and Co. hanging out with us was so cool, as there was no rockstar ego involved whatsoever. Its amazing!!! Were all getting old for this music thing (30s), ingagements, marraiges, kids on the way for some, but the music we make when we get the limited chance to collaberate is just getting better and better. I dont think Id ever give it up, I just put it to the side for awhile till it feels right again.

RE: mr. jeff martin | from michelFeb 15 2002 - 19:48

with all respect dean half of this boards' messengers have given their cd's without response maybe rightly so or not but when you think of it, what would you like to hear from jeff and friends or be trying to achieve?
e.g. take skycam, i enjoy their stuff and they wouldn'd even know about it.
shit yeah there are some excellent musicians amongst us every now and then sounding a pulse like you do but go your own way and you'll be fine. If you were only leaving you're bands' website to let us- idaho board attendents- hear your stuff, now don't be shy TELL US! we could judge for ouselves. I'm in for a treat always.

flattery is the sincerest form of imitation | from deanFeb 15 2002 - 17:49

I was wondering what you thought of that cd givin to you after your portland show? When it was recorded we had only been playing our instruments a little less than a year. We are much better now.

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