RE: Mark Eitzel | from Virginia Sep 03 2001 - 13:13
Magnetic Fields, 'Why I Cry'.
Magnetic Fields, 'Why I Cry'.
Whether he is singing to men or not I love his humor, sensitivity, and wit. When I hear his songs I think of women, like the way I do when I hear Morrissey pining for his lost loves. That's what works for me.
I can't stop listening to "Cape Canaveral" on San Francisco...over and over...over and over...over and over...
So when was the press conference actually held on eitzel coming "out"? I find it hard to believe as i had just seen him in concert and we chatted awhile, he may be bisexual, but completely gay? That would mean all those great "tragic" love songs were directed to another man. I personally don't care that he is gay. He is still the #1 greatest songwriter of all time in my book.
Though he probably became a gay man after the death of Kathleen, can anyone confirm this?
Mark Eitzel's morose viewpoint is more than balanced by a great sense of humor and deep sensitivity in his songs. A more than passing listen to any of his records will reveal this.
(I recommend his newest or "60 Watt Silver Lining" as great places to start.)
As for ProTools, it's an affront to traditional recording techniques, but I suppose if it works for a recording artist who am I to complain?
Dale's cool. Dont mess with her.
i didn't mean you! i have simply noticed that this message board
has become an outlet for those with way too much spare time on their hands and at moments some have gotten rather cruel. i simply did not want someone, an innocent bystander to be a focus of such things and am simply hoping to stall any of that.
thanks for stopping by, Kurt.
Sorry to interrupt the love in here kids but can I just say that I don't particularly dig Mark Eitzel's music. I consider myself a music fan, and I've listened to most of his stuff since its so highly rated by a lot of the musicians I rate. BUT: I find it all to be mostly self-indulgent angst, which is unoriginal and generally dull. Am I alone in thinking this? All the things I've read about him make him sound like a genuine, honest, craftsman of a guy, but in musical terms I just find his music totally uninspired and uninspiring. The same broadly applies to Low.
Now, Kurt Wagner - he's the opposite. Interesting AND interested; challenging music, challenging lyrics, bucket-loads of honesty and a disarming style that encompasses all the angst of Mr Eitzel and yet does it with more panache and acuity. Is it not true that Mark Eitzel is basically just one of those bar-room strummers who sings the same kind of songs about a particularly morbid brand of angst?
Lets get some views here people.
dale, I hope you don't mean me-- I was just posting an interview excerpt. I love Mark's music, could care less who he sleeps with. :)
yeah mark is gay he really hasn't kept it a secret.
post nicely he is a friend and i would hate for anyone to be mean to him.
re: Mark's sexuality, this is an excerpt from an interview by Dave Eggers 5/8/97 from Salon.com .....
D.E. - The album you've made is pretty bleak.
M.E. - The world is bleak.
D.E. - Sure, but do you ever find yourself emboldened by progress in the world? I mean, for instance, being a gay man in San Francisco, with the progress in AIDS treatment ...
M.E. - Yeah, well, let's look at that. Sure, there are some new drugs, and some of them work, for a little while. But they're so expensive that it you have any money at all you'll be bankrupt. Where people really have AIDS, in Africa, they're so far away from being able to afford the drugs that they'll never get their hands on them. I don't know if that's good news. I mean, it's still there, it's still a nasty disease. There's still discrimination against gays and lesbians, all over the place. It's not changed.
On the topic of Mark Eitzel's sexuality, it was mentioned in an article which was printed in a British music magazine around the time that the 'Wish the World Away' biography was published. But knowing journalists they probably read that Eitzel was a Streisand fan and jumped to their own conclusions.
yeah, what do you mean by out?
if he's gay it's the first i heard. mind you there's nothing wrong with that.....!
what do you mean by "out"?
Just got the 'Invisible Man', I think its going to be a grower, I wouldn't say that it marks a return to the standard of 'Mercury'. It's interesting that his lyrical perspective seems to have changed now that he's 'out'.
I can't afford the new album at the moment. goddamn. I'm a huge ME fan. but i thought West and Caught in a trap were, largely, shit. I hear in the UK press that the new one is back to Mercury songwriting, is this true? Please !!!!
Like Everclear/Mercury/Half of San Francisco (which half depends on mood) and 60 watt silver lining.
i read an article where he was so fucked up cause of Kathleens death that it looked like the man might top himself, god what a loss that would have been
I hear Vudi is on the new one. AMC reunion anyone?!?!?!??!?
(i wish- but it's close enough for me!)
I agree with you Eric about the production on "Mercury"... it's way too much. But the songs are so good."Apology for an accident" and "I've been a mess" are 2 all time classics. I'm sure you'll agree. I too am loving the Keys and piano element to idaho. I s'pose it's always been there though... "Sweep" and "Alive again" are fine examples.
"Mercury" would have been one of the all-time greatest albums if Mitchell Froom didn't fuck it up. Replacing Bruce Kaphan's pedal steel for quirky keyboards and bad production sounds is criminal...a producer should never be this responsible for detracting from an album's lustre.
Eitzel has stepped out of the box a few times collaborating with others and trying new things...I think that the new record is pretty successful with that.
I am looking forward to hearing Jeff's new stuff, especially since he alluded to more keyboard stuff on this record. The piano stuff on "Hearts of Palm" are my favorite parts.
Yes... the Toiling Midget album is great! One the best things Mark Eitzel has done. My fave AMC is "Mercury". His new one sounds interesting too. I find him a little inconsistant... Something you don't get with Idaho records.
If you read the Caroline Distribution catalog from way back when, under Idaho "...from the same gene pool as Red House Painters and American Music Club..." Not bad company...
I would recommend for fans of "Year After Year" to look up a record that Eitzel sang on called Toiling Midgets "Son". There is that desperate sense and skree guitar sounds.
AMC's "Everclear" is my personal favorite.
I love eitzel's music. I think the new album is brilliant. Everyone should by 12 copies. He's another pro tools convert.
Any fans out there in Idaholand?
Anyone have the new album (Invisible Man) yet? I just got it yesterday. It's pretty interesting stuff - a lot of sequenced beats and very little guitar. Apparently, a lot of it was recorded at home.
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