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RE: i hate bright eyes... your thoughts? | from az galAug 05 2005 - 12:45

I think his business direction and his standing in the music industry is exactly what is wrong with his music. Like he’s followed all the right steps to be ‘hip’ and instead comes off contrived. Plus, just like dylan he’s got a voice that I’d rather not listen to. Whenver he came on the radio my cat would leave the room. Now HE’s top shelf, my teddy bear. ;)

RE: i hate bright eyes... your thoughts? | from hanson0590Aug 04 2005 - 20:09

if bright eyes were a ninja turtle character they would be a big pile of shit. i love my car, speedy, nice, detroit.

RE: i hate bright eyes... your thoughts? | from Anonyj32normousAug 04 2005 - 20:06

bright eyes are leather. TJ is not. PANTS

RE: i hate bright eyes... your thoughts? | from dkJul 28 2005 - 07:21

Let those of us who are not top shelf repent. All together now: Kumbaya my Lord, kumbaya. Kumbaya my Lord, kumbaya. Oh Lord, kumbaya ...

RE: i hate bright eyes... your thoughts? | from joelJul 28 2005 - 00:20

I think any decent bright eyes fans has to pick through some of the shit he's written and done, blhabalbah. But I can't say he's found his success from rollingstone. Anyone who has followed his projects can see theres a guy who avoids shameless attempts at stardom. If rollingstone came to my doorstep and said they wanted to do an article on me I would probably say yes. As a creative writing major I have found incredible value in what I've heard of Idaho. But I can say there are some lyrical gems in his writing I don't know anyone of his age has done. So, I guess I still support a thread of why you don't like his music, he is a complete room devider when it comes to that. But to criticize his buisness direction and where he stands in the industry is probably more a claim on being mislead. This is the first thread I have read on the boards, but there is a lot of pathetic posters. I guess I assumed idaho fans were a little more top shelf. Ron is though.

RE: i hate bright eyes... your thoughts? | from robJun 16 2005 - 06:09

eer coldplay "nu metal" and jimmy eat world? and dashboard confessional i have to say im not a fan of all the above mentioned but mate..........non of thats nu metal infact coldplay dont even use that style of guitar are you deaf?

RE: i hate bright eyes... your thoughts? | from CodreanuMay 30 2005 - 21:49

Well said, Pantsy.

Wow, imagine, the likelihood, the sheer valor of one among the "artistic community" who dares speak scathingly of rural folkways, Christians, and those in positions of authority!

Keep rockin' the vote, Conor.

Yeah, I am just bitter that HE gets to come home to Maria Taylor...

RE: i hate bright eyes... your thoughts? | from Tink-Tinks McPoopsoMay 30 2005 - 16:55

whaddya mean "despite public opinion"???? its painfully obvious in the media that the majority of people are anti-Bush, so for you to say he is doing it in spite of public opinion is incorrect. thusly, he has no balls because you and me both know that he knows bashing bush will get people to like him (oberest, that is) and therefore he probably hopes to 'rope in' some fans that way.

what a cheap tactic. its about as tacky as a band coming on stage as saying "[insert name of city] rocks! You guys always have the best audiences! we love coming to [insert name of city]!! Wooo!! okay this next song is a new one from our upcoming album... 1, 2, 3, 4..."


lame.

RE: i hate bright eyes... your thoughts? | from daveMay 30 2005 - 16:30

If I have to listen to the bull shit bush spins every day and smile and nod (less I seem unpatriotic) then the people who hate when someone says what they feel in a song should have to suck it up. I don't think bright eyes is a genius, but I love that he got to do a song like when the president talks to god on the tonight show. Any artist who has the balls to embrace their politics should despite public opinioun is fucking rad.

RE: i hate bright eyes... your thoughts? | from DeanMay 04 2005 - 01:23

Ha! Respect Jeff: I thought that would lead to another frenzied rant.
Former fan though: "that song actually made me like him more"?? You people scare me.
I liked "a perfect sonnet" but after that it all grated on me pretty horribly.

RE: i hate bright eyes... your thoughts? | from a former Bright Eyes fanMay 03 2005 - 16:38

Well, they used to be a good band until Oberst decided to start planning his presidential bid for some far off future that I don't want to live to see. The band was great when they were singing out of Oberst's basement in Omaha about love, life and society--but now his whiny, political views have infused into his lyrics: even on the new cds. "When the President talks to God" is awfully painful to listen to, and even though I haven't been too keen on this President, this song actually makes me like him more. Leave indie-politics to someone who can do it right like Ralph Nader, not these uneducated, single-issue know-nothing hypocrites like Oberst who trades his Omaha heritage and one-time independent spirit for big-time contracts and a spot on MTV's Hot 5 videos.

RE: i hate bright eyes... your thoughts? | from a former Bright Eyes fanMay 03 2005 - 16:37

Well, they used to be a good band until Oberst decided to start planning his presidential bid for some far off future that I don't want to live to see. The band was great when they were singing out of Oberst's basement in Omaha about love, life and society--but now his whiny, political views have infused into his lyrics: even on the new cds. "When the President talks to God" is awfully painful to listen to, and even though I haven't been too keen on this President, this song actually makes me like him more. Leave indie-politics to someone who can do it right like Ralph Nader, not these uneducated, single-issue know-nothing hypocrites like Oberst who trades his Omaha heritage and one-time independent spirit for big-time contracts and a spot on MTV's Hot 5 videos.

RE: i hate bright eyes... your thoughts? | from adamMay 03 2005 - 12:52

JB.... well said.

well fucking said.

RE: i hate bright eyes... your thoughts? | from Jeff B.May 03 2005 - 11:56

so

RE: i hate bright eyes... your thoughts? | from DeanMay 03 2005 - 01:45

Your president is an Evil fuckwit. And you need to calm down. Ignore what you dislike, embrace what you do.

RE: i hate bright eyes... your thoughts? | from Jeff B.May 02 2005 - 22:24

Where the fuck to even begin..........
to answer J, "bright eyes" is the nom de plume that some skinny-whiny-warbling-12-year-old-girl's-jeans-wearing-Robert-Smith-"if-he-were-emo"-wristband-sporting-PBR-swilling-"24-years-old-and-knows-the-cure-for-society's-problems"-believes-his-own-press-slightly-talented-but-way-overrated douchenozzle named Conor Oberst uses as his band name. The name thing is kinda like Idaho or Iron and Wine or Nine Inch Nails, except Bright Eyes sucks shit, and the others I mentioned don't. I just saw this douchebag on Leno tonight. He was "performing" a song about how much he hates the President. He was wearing a cowbow hat and a cowbow outfit that would make both Howdy Doody and Jack White vomit, but then again, he DOES hate Texas and the President, so I'm guessing he was mocking 'something'. Buzz is Buzz, but I can't hardly believe that the fucking free ticket So Cal teenagers and golden year retiree tourists were cheering his anti president rants between each 'verse' (the word verse used lightly, as this song had no particular rhythm or meter). The new Dylan? heh. The new Springsteen? meh. the kids will grow out of this, and this fuck will be back playing Omaha emo cafes, or actually bussing theior tables. I saw this turd on 'Austin City Limits' a few weeks ago with my 52 year old uncle, and Wilco was on the same show, and Wilco were brilliant, as usual. After Bright Eyes, my uncle looked at me, puzzled... as if to say "uhhh,

RE: i hate bright eyes... your thoughts? | from JMay 01 2005 - 06:03

Who the fuck are Bright Eyes?

RE: i hate bright eyes... your thoughts? | from az galApr 29 2005 - 17:18

good taste is in the eye of the beholder....

so in bright eye's case, bad taste is in the ear of the cd holder?

RE: i hate bright eyes... your thoughts? | from NebraskaApr 17 2005 - 21:52

Anyone else want to claim him? I've had quite enough.

RE: i hate bright eyes... your thoughts? | from RachelApr 17 2005 - 15:19

I said those things in the heat of the moment. I looked further into it and yeah, Bright Eyes does have music videos that I had never found before. But my opinion is that he is a great artist and your's is that he isn't. I can accept that.

To me mplaster's lyrics are nothing special and I find that his voice seems dead. But you might think that about Conor. And oh well.

Above I sounded ignorant, but again, all of the other people sound ignorant too. It's inevitable to not be. Good taste is in the eye of the beholder.

RE: i hate bright eyes... your thoughts? | from Brightsy McHateEyesApr 17 2005 - 14:20

Rachel,

the reason there isnt a "Brighteyes.com" is because it is probably more like www.sony.com/brighteyes or www.capitalrecords.com/brighteyes or www.polygram.com/brighteyes... etc etc.

if you know what i mean

RE: i hate bright eyes... your thoughts? | from Alex NiedtApr 17 2005 - 14:05

"I would like to see any of you out there write lyrics like his."

Rachel, read mplaster's lyrics from "Hope Was" and "Please Sennd Help" at www.soulwhirlingsomewhere.com. That's real sincerity. There are probably others here who are capable of writing better lyrics, as well.

RE: i hate bright eyes... your thoughts? | from RachelApr 17 2005 - 12:15

I listened to Bright Eyes before they even became popular and I love them. I also think Conor is sincere.

I don't think he's doing it for the money or fame. Notice that he hasn't made any music videos and that there isn't a website named www.brighteyes.com? He's not trying to put himself out there. He got to where he is because he has an unusual singing style and talent and guess what?, it works.

I would like to see any of you out there write lyrics like his. Sorry to quote what all the magazines have been saying, but he truly is a genius.

RE: i hate bright eyes... your thoughts? | from adamApr 01 2005 - 09:31

"I mean, does anybody really want another Bob Dylan?"

good point

RE: i hate bright eyes... your thoughts? | from RoderickMar 31 2005 - 08:15

With I'M WIDE AWAKE, IT'S MORNING and DIGITAL ASH IN A DIGITAL URN, Oberst is writing some of the most lackluster songs he's written since he was 15. By the end of the two records, it's uncomfortably clear that Oberst exhausted the worthy elements of project Bright Eyes about five minutes before the world made him indie rock's new figurehead. Conor Oberst has grown into an immature and relatively uninspired songwriter who's been lucky enough to fill a vacuum of a media hungry for an easy savior. And I for one refuse to accept the notion that a halfhearted, self-satisfied folk singer with a bleak Peter Pan complex is the new voice of my generation just because they prop him up on a stage next to Bruce Springsteen and call him "the next Bob Dylan." I mean, does anybody really want another Bob Dylan?

--Zac Pennington, Portland Mercury

RE: i hate bright eyes... your thoughts? | from Shit E. McFuckMar 10 2005 - 11:45

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RE: i hate bright eyes... your thoughts? | from Mr. WebsterMar 10 2005 - 03:35

That's all we need on this board, another poo googler.

RE: i hate bright eyes... your thoughts? | from phecal phanatiqueMar 09 2005 - 16:38

i just googled poo and ended up at this site. what gives? and who's jeff?

RE: i hate bright eyes... your thoughts? | from Poo SniffMar 09 2005 - 15:10

You tell'm Pantsy!! Bright Eyes eats poo! But you can call me a poo sniffer because I think that Carpenters song that Sonic Youth covered is really cool! I Love Idaho and a bunch of great stuff, but yet, I think the Cowsills had a couple great songs. So there! I'm a poo sniffer! But you know what; it's all a big waste of time to bust up one another for what we like or dislike. There's room for endless debate. Everyone has some eclectic aspects to their musical taste. We can only provide insights as to why we don't like something and still; who cares? It's all taste. I could say that I love Boards of Canada, and I do, and you might refer me to other bands that are allegedly similar, but I find they suck more poo than Bright Eyes.

Rather than acting like a bunch of queenies; give insight and back up your dislike for a band. But I'll argue that if you're a musician and have studied what you hate; you have a right to hate it.

Now, have a poo log and there's still pleny of tea for everyone.

RE: i hate bright eyes... your thoughts? | from Pantsy McDoodles Mar 05 2005 - 09:23

seriously. stop bitching about crap.

the Idaho Message Board isnt telling you what not to like. besides, if you think it is bad, DON'T read it. if you already hate it, why bother reading it? you talk about the Idaho Message Board regulars as being a bunch of frustrated musicians. here you are, probably a indier-than-thou "Anti-Anti" crusader, you hide behind your hatred for any opinions that "disagree with yours." give me a break.

personally, i hate bright eyes, but i can see why other people might not. besides, if you have ever heard the desaparacidos project you know that hes actually even more pathetic and manufactured than he is ready to cry all the time.

if you want to save bright eyes from criticism, do it. posting on a message board wont help anyone.

RE: i hate bright eyes... your thoughts? | from HannaMar 05 2005 - 08:58

I live in Omaha...where Bright Eyes, Cursive, the Faint, Azure Ray, etc. hail from. Personally, out of all the above groups mentioned, I can only stand Azure Ray. I don't know what all the hype about Bright Eyes is either. I think Colin's music is sad, bedroom weepy-boy nonsense. Just my opinion. So many people around here, including many of my friends love his stuff. While I can't see why, I just move on and enjoy Idaho!

RE: i hate bright eyes... your thoughts? | from greenMar 05 2005 - 08:52

...I was gonna just add that I think Bright Eyes blows, but um, ...nevermind.

RE: i hate bright eyes... your thoughts? | from greenMar 05 2005 - 08:51

.....

RE: i hate bright eyes... your thoughts? | from jesseMar 05 2005 - 08:02

seriously. stop bitching about crap.

rolling stone isnt telling you what to like. besides, if you think it is bad, DON'T read it. if you already hate it, why bother picking it up? you guys talk about oberst being hypocritical. here you are, probably a bunch of frustrated musicians, you hide behind your hatred for music that you deem "mass-driven." give me a break.

personally i like bright eyes, but i can see why other people might not. besides, if you have ever heard the desaparacidos project you know that hes actually more pissed off than he is ready to cry all the time.

if you want to promote some other band, do it. posting on a message board wont help anyone.

RE: i hate bright eyes... your thoughts? | from Mr. WebsterMar 03 2005 - 04:58

"I agree with the eariler post concerning the return to the 80's glam orientated so called rock is a tired scene for those of us who lived it the first time. But in a lame emo or shall I say psuedo-homo fashion."

It's not Bright Eyes' fault you lived the 80's in a "lame emo" or "pseudo-homo fashion."

RE: i hate bright eyes... your thoughts? | from AndrewMar 02 2005 - 15:01

Nothing wrong with a song lacking a chorus IMO.

RE: i hate bright eyes... your thoughts? | from Poo SniffMar 02 2005 - 14:42

Pantsy; I love poo logs. That's wonderful news. Oh, I could just cry! Would you like some tea?

RE: i hate bright eyes... your thoughts? | from antipopMar 02 2005 - 14:28

I just heard the new bright eyes on the radio, it is completely lacking a chorus. Sounds like a bunch of random lyrical drabble. God, I hope REAL musicians can reappear without all this synthesized, prerecorded casio keyboard BS. PS. I live in Omaha, Ne. and we all cant stand the sight of Connors facade. I agree with the eariler post concerning the return to the 80's glam orientated so called rock is a tired scene for those of us who lived it the first time. But in a lame emo or shall I say psuedo-homo fashion. Come to think of it that even sounds quite familiar.

RE: i hate bright eyes... your thoughts? | from Adolf HitlerMar 02 2005 - 10:00

"But seriously someone needs to start a HATE SITE!"

AGREED!

RE: i hate bright eyes... your thoughts? | from C.N.Mar 01 2005 - 20:40

GOD, finally a Bright Eyes hate thread.
I am so sick of Conor Oberst.
Sometimes I think this all must be a big inside joke, like one person said "hey lets all pretend to like this loser" and it just got out of control. Sort of the way you like those old video games with the bad graphics because they had the one funny phrase so everyone just went with it.
Ok that made no sense.
But seriously someone needs to start a HATE SITE!

RE: i hate bright eyes... your thoughts? | from m2Feb 11 2005 - 11:43

Ron, if you worked for Rolling Stone we would have murdered you already.


:)

RE: i hate bright eyes... your thoughts? | from ronFeb 11 2005 - 11:35

i don't even think he's a whiz kid. coldplay's first album is OK. definitely better than their second effort, for sure, but it's still like a 4 or 5 in my book (on a scale of 1-10). if i wrote for RS i'd give the first record 2 1/2 stars and the second one 2 stars... or sumthin'.

RE: i hate bright eyes... your thoughts? | from cFeb 11 2005 - 07:16

Is that true? Did Oberst really do that? If so, he's probably just pissed because he knows he's the next Ryan Adams - indie-rock whiz kid one year, completely forgotten the next.

RE: i hate bright eyes... your thoughts? | from willFeb 10 2005 - 17:58

actually i totally like Coldplay's first record too. the 2nd one has its moments too.

RE: i hate bright eyes... your thoughts? | from mtvnews.comFeb 10 2005 - 15:44

Hey, do you live in Texas? Were you at the Bright Eyes show in Fort Worth on Monday? If you weren't, then you were probably busy lassoing steers and forcing yourself upon Native Americans — at least according to Bright Eyes frontman Conor Oberst, you were. According to a review of Bright Eyes' show at the Ridglea Theater in The Dallas Morning News, Oberst "drained another bottle of beer" and then began bashing the Lone Star State before a shocked audience. "I don't know about you, but I hate your f---ing state," Oberst announced. "I'd put a f---ing gun to my head before I'd live in your state." Later on in the show, he continued the verbal assault, noting that "if you came to this show tonight, you're not a normal Texan. If you were a normal Texan, you'd probably be roping steers and ..." Well, we'd rather not even reprint the rest. ...

RE: i hate bright eyes... your thoughts? | from Alex NiedtFeb 10 2005 - 15:34

I really like Coldplay's first album.

RE: i hate bright eyes... your thoughts? | from ronFeb 10 2005 - 13:55

coldplay is not a new metal band, as far as genre goes, but i hate them just as much as the new metal. that's what i meant... or sumthin'.

RE: i hate bright eyes... your thoughts? | from Rob SFeb 10 2005 - 13:27

Oh yeah I've heard of them
"Cold-Run Clippers". They came around and trimmed my wife's front and backyard last week.

RE: i hate bright eyes... your thoughts? | from Pantsy McDoodlesFeb 10 2005 - 13:20

Coldplay teamed up with Todd Rundgren to form a landscaping company that specializes in topiary work (i.e. clipping and trimming of live shrubs or trees into decorative shapes.) they will focus mostly on shapes resembling Connor Oberst and poo-logs.

RE: i hate bright eyes... your thoughts? | from Alex NiedtFeb 10 2005 - 09:51

Who said anything about Coldplay? Didn't they break up or something?

RE: i hate bright eyes... your thoughts? | from willFeb 10 2005 - 08:19

did i miss something? Coldplay is a "new metal" band now?

RE: i hate bright eyes... your thoughts? | from Mr. WebsterFeb 10 2005 - 04:02

What does "et al" mean? It's bad enough when you use big words we have to look up but foreign languages are way too hard. Did you go to college or sumthin'?

RE: i hate bright eyes... your thoughts? | from ronFeb 09 2005 - 20:27

topiaries, in the context i was using it, are bushes or plants that grow into predetermined shapes that are placed around them. some grow into shapes of mickey mouse or donald duck. for our discussion, ashlee simpson et al grow into whatever their record labels decide they should be.

RE: i hate bright eyes... your thoughts? | from Rob SFeb 09 2005 - 15:07

God Bless Todd Rundgren

RE: i hate bright eyes... your thoughts? | from adamFeb 09 2005 - 12:01

"Popularity is not a factor. If the music is good, it's good. If it sucks, it sucks. And Bright Eyes is contrived suck-ass crap."

well put

RE: i hate bright eyes... your thoughts? | from Mr. WebsterFeb 09 2005 - 09:12

I agree with Einstein. If E=MC squared, then... Wait, this couldn't be any more out of place here.

RE: i hate bright eyes... your thoughts? | from cFeb 09 2005 - 05:16

Yep. I have to agree with Ron. I like a lot of popular stuff, and have no problem with GOOD artists gaining popularity, because they deserve it. For example my favorite artist of all time is Todd Rundgren, and he's not exactly unknown. If Idaho somehow became a top 40 act, as long as the music was still great, I'd still love it. Popularity is not a factor. If the music is good, it's good. If it sucks, it sucks. And Bright Eyes is contrived suck-ass crap. Didn't like it a few years ago, and still don't like it.

RE: i hate bright eyes... your thoughts? | from Pantsy McDoodlesFeb 08 2005 - 21:06

Damn straight she is. the ho.

RE: i hate bright eyes... your thoughts? | from Mr. WebsterFeb 08 2005 - 19:51

Ashlee Simpson is "of or characterized by the clipping or trimming of live shrubs or trees into decorative shapes, as of animals?"

RE: i hate bright eyes... your thoughts? | from ronFeb 08 2005 - 18:23

uh... no. that's not true. not true for me anyways. popularity really has nothing to do with it for me. my fav band of all time is pearl jam. they're not as popular as they were ten years ago, but i still love them just the same. with this new wave of "emo" or whatever the hell the kids (or RS) is calling it, i hate it. it's as formualted and calculated as ashlee simpson. in fact, there's almost more redemption with somene like ashlee simpson... because at least she knows she sucks and therefore loses some of her pretension. at least she's honest enough with everyone to televize a meeting between her and some record execs who say, "we think you should go with the 'bad-girl' image." at least everyone knows she's a topiary. oburst would deny all of it eventho' he's one of the biggest topiaries around. (and if you don't know what a topiary is, look it up.) among other huge topiaries are: all of the "new metal" bands like Staind or Korn or 3 Doors Down, etc., jimmy eat world, coldplay, dashboard confessional, etc.

RE: i hate bright eyes... your thoughts? | from AlistairFeb 08 2005 - 16:59

i reckon youd all like him if if he hadnt become so popular

and you probably used to like him before he became popular like i did

RE: i hate bright eyes... your thoughts? | from RaztroFeb 07 2005 - 11:35

Hah, my name is Mustafa. Amazing.

RE: i hate bright eyes... your thoughts? | from mustafaFeb 07 2005 - 08:01

yes, but he's so emotional. his writing is so profound. his warbler-like singing is so heart wrenching. he's really in-touch with his sensitive side...

yeah...um...strike that. reverse it.

i've never understood what all the hype was about. why, all of a sudden, did some crappy-assed, poorly-recorded-on-a-four-track sounding adolescent catch the ear of the masses? gag.

the end of the world is certainly near.

that's it, i'm selling everything i own having to do with anything musical and performing a partial frontal labotomy with an ice pick to erase that part of my brain that controls creativity. it'll just be easier that way. anyone want to join me?

RE: i hate bright eyes... your thoughts? | from RaztroFeb 06 2005 - 13:04

I agree with everything bad said about Bright Eyes.

I love music but most writters can suck it | from alanFeb 04 2005 - 23:09

Nice - Juicy - Thread.

Bright Eyes=BAD.

But thanks to conor, his publicist and RS, this is good discussion.

(that David Gilmour thing pissed me off as weel - I mean really - whose retarded children are writting that crap over there?)

It's not just RS either, It IS the whole main stream media machine. You name it: Boston Globe, Wash.Post, LA WEAKly, LA times, SPIN

(Right now, go to spin.com to see their band of the day - It is the brother of a well known writter for US magazine - oh yeah, they suck)

How good is your publicist?
Answer: how much can you pay?

Does your local/national music editor have the cahones to assign a piece on a band he thinks deserves it?
Answer: probably not.

Why?
Answer: He needs a paycheck and isn't about to be laughed at in his staff meeting.

You can forget about us Joe Blows with a demo.
We are considered beneath contempt for all but the most "indie" of press outlets.

You need to have a deal big enough or hang on long enough, or have the right "buzz" - that's my favorite- for some pompous editor to assign some HACK writer to cover you.

Who then skips through the disk you've laboured a year or more on and decides (he/she/it)
doesn't like the city you are from so you must be shite. This writter will also use many mind numbing cliches in talking about your music.

YES, May they ALL "heartily feast on a heaping serving of Peanut and Corn-filled Hobo" steaming monster turd.

I implore everyone to stop supporting RS and SPIN and stick with the baby sue's/devil in the woods of the world





RE: i hate bright eyes... your thoughts? | from lucaFeb 04 2005 - 21:52

sincere music threatens the complacent ig noring ignorant masses. sorry dudes bright eyes is as far as they" are going. i am to be judgemental and assume that he is a little bitch and his music is strictly motivated by meat hole pleasure! luca

RE: i hate bright eyes... your thoughts? | from Alex NiedtFeb 04 2005 - 21:41

I don't hear anything musically, lyrically, or emotionally groundbreaking in his music. In fact, I really don't hear much at all. It's just kinda there.

RE: i hate bright eyes... your thoughts? | from m2Feb 04 2005 - 21:40

come on, ron.. get started. i'm right there with you. it's just like this crap with White Stripes a few years back.. that whole crappily produced, hastily written, "Look, we came up with this ONE riff in like five minutes now lets build an entire song around it"-type of crap. "Hey, we're so fucking 'True Artists' that we dont give a fuck about our production or any depth to our song/chord structures (and certainly not our lyrics) and man that makes us just so bad ass that you cant not like us." how is it that this Flavor of the Month bullshit somehow gains such reverance and credibility just because RS says so.. ...That ass-peanut from White stripes ranked considerably higher than

RE: i hate bright eyes... your thoughts? | from ronFeb 04 2005 - 21:16

i guess what i'm saying is this: they don't take chances anymore. they find these characters like conor and it's force-fed to us. almost like RS is saying, "hey guys, here's the music of your generation. latch on and join in." it's like McMusic... it's a fast-food version of music loaded with saturated bullshit, pretension, and cliche. it's no different than the 1980's glam rock. there's as much cliche in the so-called "emo" music as their ever was in 80's glam rock. FUCK, don't get me started!!

RE: i hate bright eyes... your thoughts? | from ronFeb 04 2005 - 21:12

i agree. oberst is over-rated and right now he's rollingstone's little bitch. i was given a subscripton to Rollingstone for christmas and haven't read more two decent articles. i swear, they find these "artists" and promote the shit out them, and then all of the sudden they're the next best thing, the "best singer/songwriter in the last 5 years," but they don't have the balls anymore to go out and put a real artist on their cover or do a good story on. how is it that oberst is any "better" than jeff and IDAHO? i just don't get it. if rollingstone was really committed to music they wouldn't waste their time with Bright Eyes or fucking Green Day or Gwen Stefani...

RE: i hate bright eyes... your thoughts? | from Brian in NYFeb 04 2005 - 18:27

i'll take Matthew Ryan or Richard Buckner any day over Conor......

RE: i hate bright eyes... your thoughts? | from Rob SFeb 04 2005 - 17:35

Literally

RE: i hate bright eyes... your thoughts? | from m2Feb 04 2005 - 17:24

RE: i hate bright eyes... your thoughts? | from AlistairFeb 04 2005 - 17:17

your all wrong, bright eyes are ace

firstly i think conor is aware people think he's contrived when he sings

"It's not a movie
No private screening
This method acting
Well I call it living "

and i also don't think he's that bothered what people think when he sings

"And ambition I've found can lead only to failure. I do not read the reviews, no, I am not singing for you"

RE: i hate bright eyes... your thoughts? | from Rob SFeb 04 2005 - 14:51

Me too. I don't get it either. There's something a lil f(l)akey about it. There doesn't appear to be enough sadness there for me.... and if it's there it sounds a lil forced.

RE: i hate bright eyes... your thoughts? | from m2Feb 04 2005 - 12:47

yeah, i sure as hell don't get it either. the only foo-foo pseudo-precious crap that people absolutely fawn over more than Bright Eyes is Mazzy Star, who are strikingly terrible.


i love how so many "reviewers" love to claim how incredibly deep and moving and beautiful and hearbreakingly sad this artist is, yet they never seem to mention the REAL practitioners of said adjectives, i.e.: Idaho, Swans, AMC, RHP, SWS, Hayden, Lisa Germano, etc, etc.. the list goes on...

at least

RE: i hate bright eyes... your thoughts? | from Seth HowardFeb 04 2005 - 11:41

The voice seems a little contrived to me. There are a few lyrical gems, but not enough to keep me interested.

i guess i think it sucks | from adamFeb 04 2005 - 11:05

i don't get this guy. his vibrato makes me ill. your thoughts?

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