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RE: Wheat... wha? | from gpMar 30 2004 - 09:15

i loved hope and adams. medieros is good but the latest i can't even sell back. i passed on both of the wheat concerts i could have attended. i don't think i could stomach the 'new' wheat AND liz phair. ewwwwww

RE: Wheat... wha? | from RossMar 26 2004 - 05:47

Hey Jeff B.
To be honest with you what I like most about Wheat is that to me their a great "album band" (IDAHO is the undisputed heavyweight champion). Obviously I have certain faves, "Don't I hold you", "Death Car", "Who's the One", etc., but what impresses me most about them is their ability to put together a really seamless album. They can really establish a tone and carry it through different songs.

I gave "Per Second" a few more listens, and I can't say that I've really changed my mind, but I do have to say that I've warmed up to "These are the Things".

But Jeff B., do you not find that their change in sound was pretty freaking drastic, or rather, significant?

RE: Wheat... wha? | from cMar 26 2004 - 05:18

I like just about all of Medeiros and Hope and Adams. My favorite Wheat song ever is "death car". others would be tubesoft, don't i hold you, who's the one, raised ranch revolution, slow fade, leslie west... and i do like "breathe" from the new album.

RE: Wheat... wha? | from Jeff B. Mar 25 2004 - 13:48

to each his own. I think hey so long ohio, the beginner, and this rough magic stay true to the "indie"r Wheat sound, but I think "these are things" and "breathe" are great too. still a lot fucking better than 90 % of the crap that's passing for alternative music on the radio these days.

c and ross, what are your favorite Wheat tunes?

RE: Wheat... wha? | from RossMar 25 2004 - 13:08

Maybe I'm a cynic. I've just seen too many bands I've liked in the past become dilluted as they "mature" in a more commercially viable fashion. Polish doesn't bother me either. I guess my primary problem with this album is that Wheat were the new kings of subtlety, and there is a total absence of it on 'Per Second, etc.' Where's the atmosphere? Those guys set a tone as well as played a song.

Wheat can do what they will, and I'd still go see them if they came to town, but I guess all the stuff they did that I loved, they've chosen to decist.

Jeff, maybe by trying to reach a larger audience, they've alienated some more old-school traditionalist fans like myself. Acceptable losses.

I'm so glad that you can at least agree with me about that "redo" of "Don't I hold you."

RE: Wheat... wha? | from cMar 25 2004 - 12:55

Hey, everyone's entitled to their own opinion. In this case though, Wheat have DE-volved - I could care less about the polished production, that doesn't bother me.. but the songs are not NEARLY as strong as those on Medeiros and Hope And Adams. They are largely watered down and formulaic. And I know for a fact that Ross and I are not the only ones who feel this way. Guess we're all too damn cynical.

RE: Wheat... wha? | from Jeff B. Mar 25 2004 - 11:54

P.S. - I'm not crazy about the "new" Don't I hold you either........

RE: Wheat... wha? | from Jeff B. Mar 25 2004 - 11:52

freakin cynics - are the songs good? yes...... do they sound the same as Medeiros or H&A? no.......
can a band mature, or (gasp) even polish their sound to try to appeal to a bigger audience? apparently not -- I love the new record - as much or possibly more than the others. Keep in mind - it's not like they're working with the "Matrix" or Matt Serletic or some other lame "hitmaker" producer - it's still Dave Fridmann. It's still Wheat. I love 'em.

RE: Wheat... wha? | from RossMar 25 2004 - 10:35

I love it too, but I though Hope and Adams was sublime. What bothers me is that the 'change' in terms of sound, songs, and arrangement seems like a deliberate and conscious one.

Too bad, really.

Maybe we'll see them on tour with Nickleback this Summer!

RE: Wheat... wha? | from cMar 25 2004 - 08:36

I feel the same way Ross. I admit a few songs did grow on me after a while - "breathe" in particular is a really good song - but overall it's a huge disappointment.

I still think "Medeiros" is their best record.

RE: Wheat... wha? | from RossMar 25 2004 - 07:32

They even butchered "Don't I hold you" on a secret track.

They're really chasing the Top 40 Dragon...

Que? | from RossMar 25 2004 - 07:07

I finally found a copy of the new Wheat. Who the hell is this, and what have they done with Wheat?!


It sounds like Soul Asylum meets Hootie for Christ sakes.

Did this album actually grow on any Wheat fans? Because this is me not holding my breath.

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