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RE: Copy-protected CDs are garbage | from brianFeb 22 2004 - 23:51

i've emailed everyone who i've been able to, if anyone didn't receive an email about the compilation and would be interested, please contact me or leave your e-mail address in reply. thanks.

RE: Copy-protected CDs are garbage | from brianFeb 20 2004 - 23:51

i'll respond to emails on sat. with info. thanks so far everyone.

RE: Copy-protected CDs are garbage | from JR OlssonFeb 20 2004 - 01:43

i would of course be interested too. it's a great idea.

did you get my e-mail brian?

RE: Copy-protected CDs are garbage | from adamFeb 19 2004 - 23:30

As would I.

RE: Copy-protected CDs are garbage | from RossFeb 19 2004 - 05:44

I'd gladly contribute.

RE: Copy-protected CDs are garbage | from cFeb 19 2004 - 05:15

I'd like to participate too. I've got mountains of tapes in my closet
of stuff I've done over the last few years, just gathering dust. I haven't released anything since 1998, so I guess it's time (?)

RE: Copy-protected CDs are garbage | from brianFeb 18 2004 - 21:37

i want to do the compilation. maybe have a series. lots of ideas i've always wanted to do for years regarding releases. i've released a couple of cds from bands i was in, so it's not a new process for me. just on a different scale. would be fun.

RE: Copy-protected CDs are garbage | from mplasterFeb 18 2004 - 17:45

count me in, too.

RE: Copy-protected CDs are garbage | from Alex NiedtFeb 18 2004 - 17:00

I think it's a great idea. Brian, let me know if you'd really like to do a compilation and I'd be glad to participate somehow.

RE: Copy-protected CDs are garbage | from the Real Pantsy McDoodlesFeb 18 2004 - 13:10

dude,

RE: Copy-protected CDs are garbage | from JeanFeb 18 2004 - 11:06

So, what do the bands actually think of this slidingpast comp CD idea? Are you gonna do it or what?

RE: Copy-protected CDs are garbage | from adam a.Feb 16 2004 - 13:07

i'm getting all antsy, pantsy.

RE: Copy-protected CDs are garbage | from Pantsy McDoodles Feb 16 2004 - 09:21

what do you all think of my snazzy pants?

RE: Copy-protected CDs are garbage | from ronFeb 16 2004 - 05:28

i'm old enough to remember the feeling of getting a record album. thank God i had an older brother who shared his music with me and my twin bro. lots of KISS and the stones, pink floyd and neil young. they just don't make 'em like that anymore. hell, for all i can hear, Jet might as well be The Hives or The Vines or the bloody Strokes (who i can't stand.) they all sound the same to me, and i've actually got an ear.

RE: Copy-protected CDs are garbage | from michael jacksonFeb 15 2004 - 06:43

Something I learned at my daddy's knee was that you're rich if you make one dollar more than you spend and poor if you spend one dollar more than you make. What's all this thing about being rich, anyway, people? The important thing is not becoming cynical, keeping an open mind and loving our wives and children. Each of us a is a child of the universe. Peace, everyone - and congratulations - I think you are doing very great things in Idaho, the potato state.

RE: Copy-protected CDs are garbage | from Mister MoneybagsFeb 15 2004 - 01:22

We don't want to make Jeff rich, we want to make me rich.

RE: Copy-protected CDs are garbage | from brianFeb 14 2004 - 23:24

andrew, i must have missed the part about making Jeff rich.

RE: Copy-protected CDs are garbage | from JeanFeb 14 2004 - 21:26

That's nice HefFe. Brilliant ideas Brian & Andrew. I'd buy the CD for sure.

RE: Copy-protected CDs are garbage | from HefFeFeb 14 2004 - 20:52

I like monkeys

RE: Copy-protected CDs are garbage | from HefFeFeb 14 2004 - 20:52

I like monkeys.

RE: Copy-protected CDs are garbage | from AndrewFeb 14 2004 - 20:30

Brian, how about starting "Sliding Past Records"? You could release a bunch of stuff by the people on this board, like compilations, and give all the money to Jeff so we'd all have lots of Idaho to listen to. Have the artists on this board totally "sell out" and write some pop shit and make videos for MTV so you make tons and tons of money. The richer Jeff is, the better. Right?...

RE: Copy-protected CDs are garbage | from Alex NiedtFeb 14 2004 - 20:26

And by the way, I'm just in it for the money.

RE: Copy-protected CDs are garbage | from Alex NiedtFeb 14 2004 - 20:24

Just thought I'd add Ten Year Drought and Gardin to that list.

RE: Copy-protected CDs are garbage | from brianFeb 14 2004 - 18:54

it almost seems everything will become so streamlined that there is only THE major label. one record company. the world is already down to 3 or 4, all hiding/distributing under different sub-labels churning out cookie cutter bands styled the same for their so called/media friendly "genre".

RE: Copy-protected CDs are garbage | from stemsFeb 14 2004 - 16:45

Andrew- I agree wholeheartedly. I hope it DOES come to an end. Only a decade and a half ago tons of people were DIY-ing, (though not all of it was good music by any means)--now it seems everyone just will do anything including lubing up and bending over to "sign to a label"...

Brian- I dig your site, but unlike you (maybe I'm too much the cynic), I truly despise nearly EVERY band. There are so goddamned many and so very few have anything to offer. To my mind anyway. I don't know how many times I've heard a band hyped or thought a band sounded interesting only to see or hear them and end up thinking "man, if that's the best they can do, why bother?" The descitption of the Strokes covering the Stooges is a perfect example. Most everything seems like a xerox of a xerox of a xerox...

And why should I bother getting into a band when I can easily go back to their roots, see whose style and sound they are ripping off and listen to THAT?

RE: Copy-protected CDs are garbage | from Rob SFeb 14 2004 - 02:33

Jet are from Melbourne Australia.. and yes they are way crap. Bin it.

RE: Copy-protected CDs are garbage | from JBFeb 14 2004 - 01:51

Hmmmmm, Patronet ey ?
Hey Jeff, Can you a couple of songs this this year....I have an idea....

RE: Copy-protected CDs are garbage | from RossFeb 13 2004 - 06:02

Wow. Um... thank God for copy-protected CDs, I guess.

RE: Copy-protected CDs are garbage | from cFeb 13 2004 - 05:23

my sentiments exactly...

RE: Copy-protected CDs are garbage | from brianFeb 12 2004 - 21:50

i'm curious to read about the jet cd not being able to play on stereos since it's all the rage now. i tried looking up reviews of the record and couldn't find a mention of that, but did find an interesting "review" on pitchfork at

RE: Copy-protected CDs are garbage | from AndrewFeb 12 2004 - 19:56

Thank God for that. Once it does come to an end, hopefully things will be rebuilt in indie mode, with an emphasis in sad/slowcore. Only in dreams...

RE: Copy-protected CDs are garbage | from stemsFeb 12 2004 - 19:29

Jet ARE shit. Heard their hit, saw them schill it on Lettermen or some show of that ilk. Lame. Guitar rawk done WAY better over 30 years ago by the Stooges. LIke most bands that are hyped to death, they are derivitave, generic shit. (I like the White Stripes though...)

This crap of CDs only playing in computers and shit pisses me off. Hell, I still miss vinyl. I don't know how old some of you are, but I remember the glee I felt when I used to score a new vinyl LP. Large artwork, sometimes (Pink Floyd's Dark Side and old KISS albums come to mind-- hey, I was a kid) stickers, posters and so on inside. One KISS LP even came with a pop gun and another with a bunch of tattoos. I had a turntable until recently when I sold everything I had. Miss it.

I don't use the computer for anything music-wise but listening to samples of someone's music on Amazon or a band site to get an idea what they sound like.

The recording industry is as bad as fucking Haliburton. Rip off fans, rip off artists, the top three guys decide what everyone can and will hear and those three guys make all the money. The FCC (run by Colin Powell's son) is just as bad. In cahoots. I really think it's coming to an end folks.

RE: Copy-protected CDs are garbage | from PFeb 12 2004 - 18:56

jet are shit

RE: Copy-protected CDs are garbage | from Seth HowardFeb 12 2004 - 11:33

Take the CD back and demand your money back. If you get flack from the store, send it back to the label and mark it "personal and confidential" to the president.

RE: Copy-protected CDs are garbage | from RossFeb 12 2004 - 07:38

I love Rundgren, but I find that patronet thing a bit weird. I mean he makes songs, not wallets, and unlike wallets, a good song requires inspiration. You can't always count on it either.

I too am more of a throwback, without being total Trog. I never really got into the MP3 thing all that much, because, not only is it unethical, but it's time consuming, and I love having albums. My CD collection is the closest thing to a photo album I have.

Listening to a new album/tape/cd has always been a ritual for me. You know, you get home put it on and look at the jacket and read lyrics/liner notes. Now I have to ensure that it's not copy protected before I even buy it.

I forgot, I also bought the new AIR "Talkie Walkie", and I can listen to it on my computer, but the thing won't play on my stereo. I would love to listen to it in my livingroom.

C - Thanks, you just saved me $14.00!

RE: Copy-protected CDs are garbage | from cFeb 12 2004 - 07:09

You've got a point there. I like the convenience of simply putting a CD in the stereo and listening to it. If I have to download any files, or have to go online to listen to a CD, I'm not interested. Maybe I'm old-fashioned, though, because I'm sure alot of people would disagree with me.

That leads me to one of all-time favorite artists (not to mention a huge musical influence) - Todd Rundgren. He's got this thing called "patronet", in which a subscriber pays X amount of $ per year, and every time T.R. finishes a song, the patronet subscriber can download the song for free. In theory this may sound ok, but for the past several years, T.R. has finished two songs per year at best. I'm sure that the subscription cost per year is at least the price of one CD - and you're only getting two songs, max. Ripoff. I hope more artists do NOT follow T.R.'s lead. Then again, he does have a new CD coming out sometime this year (with 14 tracks!), a compilation of songs he's offered through Patronet over the last several years. So I shouldn't complain.

And Ross - as for Jet - I hear one of their songs on the radio all the time. I don't know what it's called but it sounds like a (much) weaker version of "lust for life" by iggy pop... so you're not missing much.

RE: Copy-protected CDs are garbage | from RossFeb 12 2004 - 05:54

Thankfully James Brown's 'Jungle Groove' worked just fine.

RE: Copy-protected CDs are garbage | from RossFeb 12 2004 - 05:48

It was this band 'Jet', some guy at work told me about. There's no actual WAVs on the cd. What you're running is a Macromedia Director file and the songs are streamed off the band's website. My internet was down, so I never actually got to hear what the band sounds like. I'm returning it.

The other one was some really poppy band named 'Guster.' For them, you had to download MP3s (?!!) from the bands website. I think major labels are implementing this sort of thing first.

Yeah, I'm sorry for all the f-sharps, people. It's just that listening to music, should never be a hassle. That, and that technology scares and annoys me.

RE: Copy-protected CDs are garbage | from cFeb 12 2004 - 04:56

I've never had that problem either - what CD's are you referring to Ross?

RE: Copy-protected CDs are garbage | from E-TypeFeb 12 2004 - 02:28

I use to be the other way around.

RE: Copy-protected CDs are garbage | from DeanFeb 12 2004 - 01:51

Something is wrong with your stereo man.

RE: Copy-protected CDs are garbage | from Alex NiedtFeb 11 2004 - 21:59

Hey Ross. Just curious what the CDs you have are that won't play in your stereo. That's really ridiculous. Somehow, I've never had that problem, although I have a huge CD collection.

Burned | from RossFeb 11 2004 - 18:05

I'm so fucking livid. For the second time in as many months I buy a CD and take it home only to discover it doesn't play on my stereo. I have to go to my fucking computer, and either listen to it there, or download MP3s from a website. Why the fuck should I buy CDs? If artists are being fucked over, then why are labels turning around and fucking the people who are actually paying for the music. I hope to God I can listen to the next IDAHO album in my living room instead of sitting at my computer.

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