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RE: I love Idaho but... | from questionably fake cApr 16 2004 - 12:45

No, not after anyone specific... Rupert is just a swanky name.

RE: I love Idaho but... | from fake andrewApr 16 2004 - 11:46

After Rupert Boneham on Survivor?

RE: I love Idaho but... | from possibly fake cApr 16 2004 - 05:05

It doesn't matter anyway. I'm changing the name of the band to "Fake Rupert".

RE: I love Idaho but... | from the fake m2.....or is it?!?!?Apr 15 2004 - 15:55

wait a sec.... how can fake alex give permission to fake c when fake c needs the REAL alex's permission, not the fake one's?!?!?!?and if granted, does that apply for the actual Real C, or the fake c? and is the fake c really the real c just using the term fake because it sounds cool, or is it really a fake c? and how do we not know that the fake alex isnt really the real alex simply trying to throw off the fake c (who is actually the real c,) in order to see how he will respond, thus verifying his status (or not) as the real c?!?

sorry. just tryin' to keep it real.

RE: I love Idaho but... | from fake alexApr 15 2004 - 10:36

go ahead. as long as i get a 25% cut of the profits.

RE: I love Idaho but... | from fake cApr 15 2004 - 05:16

Fake Alex would actually be a cool name for a band. It's catchy - I think I'll do it. With the real Alex's permission, of course.

RE: I love Idaho but... | from fake jakeApr 15 2004 - 04:20

Someone should start a band called Fake Alex and give this drama a happy ending.

RE: I love Idaho but... | from JeanApr 14 2004 - 14:50

Actually, I thought the real Alex's first response was hilarious, and accurate. So, fake Alex, I guess you're the only one who's allowed to have a sense of humor, and anyone who throws it back at you does not?

RE: I love Idaho but... | from Alex NiedtApr 14 2004 - 12:35

Seriously, what is funny about anything you say? It's the same annoying shit over and over. Yes, I like SWS. Hardee har har. Please just email me the next time you want to say something to me, or if you think of some more clever and hilarious substitutes for my last name. I'd appreciate it. XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO

RE: I love Idaho but... | from AndrewApr 14 2004 - 12:25

That's really getting old. Leave him alone. At least pick on someone else for a change if you feel the need to.

RE: I love Idaho but... | from Alex NerdApr 14 2004 - 01:19

Sense of humour by-pass alert...

RE: I love Idaho but... | from Alex NiedtApr 13 2004 - 12:16

Wow, Alex, now THAT was funny! I mean, how you mispelled my name, and then made a joke about how I like his music. I...oh gosh...WOW!!! Please, give us more...

RE: I love Idaho but... | from Alex NeatApr 13 2004 - 08:30

don't worry Mr. Plaster, I'll still buy them.




P.S. XOXOXOXOXOX

RE: I love Idaho but... | from mplasterApr 12 2004 - 20:12

i guess you won't be buying any of my albums anytime soon, then...


:)

RE: I love Idaho but... | from AndrewApr 12 2004 - 19:19

Somebody's schizophrenic.

RE: I love Idaho but... | from gregApr 12 2004 - 19:03

no, no, it's not. there's a whole lot of us out here. maybe thousands. we'd like to like idaho more but the lyrics are just too much.

RE: I love Idaho but... | from glowpusherSep 30 2003 - 11:50

i think its just you greg.

RE: I love Idaho but... | from Jason EisertSep 28 2003 - 17:13

I love Idaho but...nothing - there are no ifs ands or buts about it mo' fo'!

RE: I love Idaho but... | from John DoeSep 28 2003 - 03:42

RE: I love Idaho but... | from TimSep 23 2003 - 18:44

How can anyone who is a fan of Idaho complain about Jeff's lyrics? Part of Idaho's greatness comes from how well Jeff's lyrics compliment his music.

RE: I love Idaho but... | from ronSep 23 2003 - 17:26

ross: well said ross. seriously.

RE: I love Idaho but... | from RossSep 23 2003 - 11:15

I don't care what social class Jeff is from, whether he's lighting his Maui Wowie with copies of Action Comics #1, the music he makes is the most emotive I've ever heard. It's honest, genuine, and I can always sense some of the enthusiasm that goes into making his album, be they lighter or darker. It's music for the sake of music, and that's pretty rare these days. When you find a band or artist that does this, well, you should enjoy it, because it doesn't come around every day. If you're all hung up on the haves and have nots then you're no longer even taking about music anymore. Would it bother you if he was rich? ...and why?

An old friend of mine has a saying which I've always found to be surprisingly true, "nobody has it any better than you, and nobody has it any worse." A man with a fat wallet can still have a broken heart. And I mean really, what the fuck do any us really know about Jeff Martin and his life. I don't think anyone on this message board has any right to pass judgement on Jeff, and quite frankly, no fucking business doing so.

RE: I love Idaho but... | from KeithSep 23 2003 - 10:14

Writing pop songs is cake. It's all about formula. The songrwriters who write for pop stars take specific chord progressions found in other popular songs at the time (jazz standards have done this for years), set them to a popular form (verse, chorus) then throw a few "oohh, baby...girl...alright..come on"s in and sing a blues scale over everything.

viola.

Oh, and I don't get the "rich whiney white boy" thing either. Speculation is grand.

RE: I love Idaho but... | from scoobidooSep 23 2003 - 00:09

In fact, Jeff Martin is a dj and mixes Britney Spears/strokes tunes.
Can't wait the next album...

RE: I love Idaho but... | from AlexSep 22 2003 - 20:11

Don't forget the multiple Antares Autotunes, to make sure the pitch corrected by the first one is corrected yet again by the second.

RE: I love Idaho but... | from spudminerSep 22 2003 - 17:28

Ive never heard Idaho. brittneys live shows are done with 2 computers (in case one crashes)Midi, lipsync, lights, and all. Does Idaho play their own or is it performed by a mindless machine?

RE: I love Idaho but... | from JR OlssonSep 22 2003 - 17:10

or what about 50 cent. or what the heck he's called. you gotta dig them heavy beats and filthy rhymes man.

RE: I love Idaho but... | from Seth HowardSep 22 2003 - 13:07

If you don't like "wealthy white boy whine" go buy some Folkways discs.

RE: I love Idaho but... | from bankySep 22 2003 - 12:22

or thinks up those dance moves, or lipsinks her concerts--oh wait.

RE: I love Idaho but... | from hSep 21 2003 - 20:30

as if Britney actually writes her own music...

RE: I love Idaho but... | from a fanSep 21 2003 - 14:17

I was under the impression that IDAHO wasn't rolling in the dough. I never got that wealthy whiney white boy vibe from this group. it's the mainstream stuff that sounds like whining to me. IDAHO seems more heartfelt and touching.

RE: I love Idaho but... | from ronSep 21 2003 - 12:10

guys: remember what britney spears says: "anyone can go out and write an artsy song. but not everyone can go out and write a good pop tune. that's the hardest shit to write." that's a direct quote from her. jeff, a rich whitey crying? he might have more money than we, but IDAHO lyrics aren't whiney at all. you want whiney, listen to hip-hop or whitney houston or sum 41 or any of that shit that's on MTV or VH1. IDAHO's lyrics i think, more than anything, are pretty honest.

RE: I love Idaho but... | from I'm fucked...Sep 20 2003 - 23:24

Nah D, Faliraki is the new Aya Napa. You're behind the times kiddo. Maybe less staying in listening to indie boy drone, maybe more getting out? Huh?

RE: I love Idaho but... | from DSep 20 2003 - 11:15

yes, Ed. It's a place in Cyprus. My auntie went once and said it was nice. Don't the youngsters go to Ayia Napa nowdays ?

RE: I love Idaho but... | from edSep 20 2003 - 09:50

Ever hear of pathos.

RE: I love Idaho but... | from andySep 19 2003 - 18:39

Hey, that's my line....Oops I just outed myself.

RE: I love Idaho but... | from _Sep 19 2003 - 13:37


boohoo waaaaaaahhhh!!!!

RE: I love Idaho but... | from RyanSep 19 2003 - 13:04

I think Jeff is a whiny bitch.

RE: I love Idaho but... | from Andrew KellierSep 19 2003 - 11:14

Well said C. I agree entirely.

RE: I love Idaho but... | from cSep 19 2003 - 10:43

I don't agree with this whole "white boy whine" shit at all. Nu-metal and Emo bands, yes, but not Idaho. True that many of Jeff's lyrics are sad and introspective but I've never found any of them to be whiny.

RE: I love Idaho but... | from michelSep 19 2003 - 01:34

i think Greg has got a point, although he puts it maybe unawkwardly. I always loved the darkness in YAY and palms, i never heard anything like it ever again sucking you in so deep and at the same time moving to tears. When I compare the sounds of then and now -which i may do as Idaho lover but at the same time can't really, ofcourse due to the bands sound developpement- i kind of come to draw the same conclusion. I would never put it like ''wealthy white boy whining'' simply because my respect is too great and i find all what was made genuine and pure and still love their stuff. I think Greg has maybe just been introduced to Idaho's music and therefore comes to saying this as he did. So many of my friends find Idaho boring, and maybe to them it is, so what? I don't like the stuff they like so...

RE: I love Idaho but... | from Rob sSep 19 2003 - 01:01

It's quite clear you don't love IDAHO if there's a but.

RE: I love Idaho but... | from micahSep 18 2003 - 22:59

you're right, it is too much comfortable wealthy white boy whine. i want some gangsta on the next album.

RE: I love Idaho but... | from loSep 18 2003 - 21:32

greg...this is why you need to balance your collection out...some IDAHO, and some good ol foot stompin "oops I did it again"...makes you feel right about it all

RE: I love Idaho but... | from AlexSep 18 2003 - 20:43

I think the lyrics convey a sense of longing and melancholy that suits the music perfectly. I don't think it would really work any other way.

Self pity drenches their songs | from GregSep 18 2003 - 18:21

Maybe its just me but the whole Idaho sound is a little too much comfortable wealthy white boy whine at times. Especially on Hearts of Palm. Too much time to spend feeling sad about this and that.

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